Re: [Opie] strategic direction

On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:31 pm, Russell Nelson wrote:
> The reason that I propose that we run Opie over X instead of X over
> Opie is that Qt was written for X in the first place, and there is no
> Opie X server that I'm aware of.

Qt/E was not written for X, but that's a pedantic point at best, since it's
essentially Qt-compatible. Though does the Familiar X-server do
RandR/RENDER/alpha yet? (An honest question; all of those would be neat.)

True, there is no way to run X applications within Opie, other than the rather
hackish (imho) approach of running a headless VNC X session on the machine
and connecting using Keypebble (our VNC viewer).

> I notice that everybody thinks that X is too big and/or too slow to
> use with Opie. Nobody actually has any numbers.

Heh.
From my original message:
"I do not have room for X alongside Opie and am not interested in always
having a sleeve attached."

Note the "alongside Opie." *grin*

My CompactFlash xlibs and gtk come in at about 2.2M. I have something like
100k of flash free. Will X fit? This is what I meant -- not that "X is big
and slow!" but rather that "Opie, configured as I need it, fills my flash!"
If anything, that's more of a jab at Opie than X (though I don't see how it
could be smaller, given the circumstances).

I like X; don't interpret what I say as an attack. I keep an X package for
the system around, but on a card. I omit "actual numbers" for the sake of
brevity when they don't seem terribly applicable; if you really want the
output of df on my system, I can send it. :-)

The iPaq without any sleeves is a reasonably small device, and I carry it as
such for a PDA (it replaced my Clie). The situations where I need both X and
a small package are rare, so X lives on a card. That's all. :-)

-Cliff L. Biffle
Received on Wed Jan 15 2003 - 20:18:30 EST