Re: nmf packages

From: <Jim.Gettys.a.t.hp.com>
Date: Thu Aug 15 2002 - 09:57:23 EDT

I second Phil's opinion: I think a transition to GTK2 needs to be planned
(the time isn't quite yet, but soon). Gnome developers are rapidly
transitioning off of 1.x at this date.

GTK 2.2 will have (already has in CVS) support for migration between screens
and display servers, allowing us to do a class of things no one else on
the planet can do, like migrate your app from your screen to your second
screen driving your projector, or to your desktop, etc.

GTK2 also does proper I18N, and it is possible the accessability stuff
will also be helpful. The I18N stuff is very important to a large part
of the world's population (Pango will image indic languages; something
not even Microsoft can do).

On the downside, it has a larger footprint: how much larger is a question
that can't yet be answered, as we need to build a version removing deprecated
widgets. This should be a substantial savings, and I think (know) we can come
up with the space elsewhere (like in Xlib) to afford this footprint increase.

So my opinion is the discussion needs to be when and how, rather than if,
to transition.
                                - Jim

> Sender: gpe-admin@handhelds.org
> From: Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk>
> Date: 15 Aug 2002 11:13:36 +0100
> To: Nils Faerber <nils@kernelconcepts.de>
> Cc: gpe@handhelds.org
> Subject: Re: [Gpe] nmf packages
> -----
> On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 10:48, Nils Faerber wrote:
> > Don't want to be offensive but why did you use GTK2?
> > We once agreed on GTK+ 1.2 for GPE...
> > Would it be hard to modify it for GTK+ 1.2?
>
> It wouldn't be especially difficult to modify -- the only module that
> depends on GTK2 in a big way is the playlist editor, which uses the new
> MVC tree objects. If anybody wants to do a GTK1 port of the NMF
> frontend, they're very welcome.
>
> However, GTK1 is a dead-end platform now, and I find it increasingly
> hard to work up much enthusiasm for writing new code to that interface.
> GTK2 brings several major advantages and I think the time has come to
> look at migrating to this new version.
>
> p.
>
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Jim Gettys
Cambridge Research Laboratory
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Jim.Gettys@hp.com
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